Published on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 by The Nation Recall Campaign Against Scott Walker Fails
Robert M. La Follette, the architect of the progressive movement that a century ago made Wisconsin the nation’s “laboratory of democracy,” recognized that the experiments would at times go awry. “We have long rested comfortably in this country upon the assumption that because our form of government was democratic, it was therefore automatically producing democratic results. Now, there is nothing mysteriously potent about the forms and names of democratic institutions that should make them self-operative,” he observed after suffering more than his share of defeats. “Tyranny and oppression are just as possible under democratic forms as under any other.”
Voting ballots are stacked and ready as voters wait in line to cast their ballot Tuesday, June 5, 2012, in Milwaukee. Wisconsin Republican Gov. Scott Walker is taking on Democratic challenger Tom Barrett in a recall election. (AP Photo/Jeffrey Phelps)
Those words echoed across the decades on the night of June 5, as the most powerful of the accountability tools developed in La Follette’s laboratory — the right to recall errant officials — proved insufficient for the removal of Governor Scott Walker.
The failure of the campaign against Walker, while heartbreaking for Wisconsin union families and the great activist movement that developed to counter the governor and his policies, offers profound lessons not just for Wisconsin but for a nation that is wrestling with fundamental questions of how to counter corporate and conservative power in a Citizens United moment. Those lessons are daunting, as they suggest the “money power” populists and progressives of another era identified as the greatest threat to democracy has now organized itself as a force that cannot be easily thwarted even by determined “people power.”
The Wisconsin result says that big money matters more — perhaps much more — now than it ever has. It can take a damaged candidate like Scott Walker and repurpose him as a winner. That’s very good news for Mitt Romney. But it does not have to be the end of the story.
The Wisconsin result — which followed upon a campaign that saw Walker outspend his Democratic challenger by perhaps 8-1, as the governor’s billionaire backers flooded the state with tens of millions of dollars in “independent” expenditures on his behalf — should send up red flares for Democrats as they prepare for this fall’s presidential and congressional elections. The right has developed a far more sophisticated money-in-politics template than it has ever before employed. That template worked in Wisconsin, on behalf of a deeply-divisive and scandal-plagued governor, and it worked.
But the quick calculus that says organized money beats organized people misses the fact that those who sought to depose “the imperial Walker” were also experimenting. They made mistakes, particularly as regards messaging. They were let down by national Democratic players who never quite recognized that Republican National Committee chairman Reince Preibus and “independent” groups on the right were testing and perfecting strategies for November.
Yet, against overwhelming odds, Wisconsin’s recall movement fought its way to a dead heat, losing only narrowly in its effort to remove a “right-wing rock star” whose reelection became the top priority of the Republican party, the conservative movement and the 1% billionaires who made Walker’s reelection a national priority.
For those who see democracy as a spectator sport with clearly-defined seasons that finish on election day, the Wisconsin results are just depressing. But for those who recognize the distance Wisconsin — and other states, such as Ohio, which used a veto referendum to restore collective-bargaining rights — have come since the Republicans won just about everything in 2010, the recall story is instructive.
Walker’s February, 2011, assault on union rights provoked some of the largest mass demonstrations in modern labor history, protests that anticipated the “Occupy” phenomenon with a three-week takeover of the state Capitol and universal slogan “Blame Wall Street Not the Workers, protests that both drew inspiration from and served to inspire the global kicking up against austerity. The governor never backed off his self-declared “divide and conquer” agenda of attacking not just public-sector unions but public services and public education. So there developed early on in Wisconsin a sense that the only way to stop Walker was to remove him from office using the “petition for the redress of grievances” power of recall, which allows citizens to gather a sufficient number of signatures to force a new election.
The Wisconsin recall vote was only the third for a governor in Wisconsin history. The previous two were organized by the right, with substantial corporate support. In Wisconsin, it was different. The labor movement and its allies forced the vote, relying on grassroots activists who gathered more than 900,000 signatures (over 40 percent of the electorate in the previous gubernatorial election) in every township, village and city of the state.
Walker’s response was to collect more than $30 million. That was more than anyone running for any office in Wisconsin history had ever raised, and the money came overwhelmingly — more than 70 percent in the final filing — from out of state. That money was well spent; it framed a message rooted in fantasy and fabrication that suggested up was down, right was left and that his economic policies (which spawned the worst job losses in the nation) were “working.”
Walker’s economic policies didn’t work. But his advertisements did; they moved him up in the polls as Democrats and their allies were struggling to identify a candidate to challenge him. And that poll advantage spooked national Democratic strategists, who got overly cautious about engaging with the Wisconsin struggle. There was no caution on the other side; Republican National Committee chairman Reince Preibus, a Wisconsin native, was always “all in,” as were the party’s top donors. And that mattered; a loophole in Wisconsin law allowed Walker to collected unlimited amounts of money during the period before the recall election was formally scheduled. He got collected piles of checks for as much as $500,000. And the billionaires who weren’t donating to his campaign were setting up “independent” expenditures on his behalf — like the one that Joe Ricketts, the guy who got caught out scheming to attack President Obama, organized to defend Walker and attack Barrett.
There’ll be plenty of speculation about whether things in Wisconsin would have been different if Obama, the national Democrats and their donors had gone all in for Barrett. But that misses a deeper point; the unlimited spending that Republicans and their allies can now engage in is a new factor in our politics. And it has the potential to be definitional unless Democrats and progressives figure things out quickly. They should have been on the ground in Wisconsin not just to beat Walker but to get a read on where politics in America is headed in the Citizens United age.
The answer is not that Democrats and unions need to figure out how to counter Republican and corporate money. They can’t. So does Wisconsin then tell us that its over for progressive politics of any kind in America? Not necessarily.
The Wisconsin result says that big money matters more — perhaps much more — now than it ever has. It can take a damaged candidate like Scott Walker and repurpose him as a winner. That’s very good news for Mitt Romney. But it does not have to be the end of the story.
“Democrats don’t have to have as much money as Republicans to compete in campaigns,” says state Representative Fred Kessler, a Wisconsin Democrat who has been running campaigns for 50 years. “What they have to do is figure out how to spend the money they have in a way that counters the big money.”
In Wisconsin, Democrats struggled with their message, trying to transition the radicalism of the Capitol protests of 2011 — which took as their symbol a clenched “Solidarity” fist in the shape of the state — into the narrow confines of contemporary politics. It didn’t work. Months of soft messaging about important issues — from education to voting rights — took some of the edge off the movement messaging that had defined the protests and the petitioning for the recall. As a result, polls conducted after the Democratic primary picked Barrett showed that a third or more of voters who identified as coming from a “union household” intended to vote for Walker. Private-sector unions found themselves scrambling in the weeks before the June 5 election to shore up a base that should have been secured from the start.
There was, as well, a huge problem with messaging as regards the recall itself. Walker’s theme for the better part of year — reinforced in paid advertising and constant appearances on his favored news network: Fox — was that the recall election was a costly partisan temper tantrum. The criticism was never really countered.
What could Democrats and the unions have done differently. They could have taken a portion of the millions they did spend on television ads attacking Walker — whose negatives were already high and who was taken regular media hits regarding a criminal investigation of his aides and donors — and spent it on early advertising to make the case for collective bargaining and the recall election. Democrats and their allies do a lousy job of framing debates, and that was certainly the case in Wisconsin.
Taking lessons from Wisconsin is important for progressives, as conservatives will surely be taking their lessons — most of which will be about the power of big money. But one lesson that progressive ought not take from Wisconsin is the theory that mass movements cannot beat big money.
Unions and their allies invested in mobilization of voters in Wisconsin’s cities, especially African-American voters in Milwaukee and Racine. And it worked. Turnout was up dramatically, so much so that on election day election clerks had to be shifted to predominantly African-American wards.
“You can’t spend all your money on television. You’ve got to spend it on the ground,” says Congresswoman Gwen Moore, a Milwaukee Democrat. “That’s the most important thing to take away from Wisconsin. Investing on the ground more Democratic voters the polls. Even if it wasn’t quite enough, people have to realize that’s where you begin. That’s how you build the base for winning next time.”
There will be a next time, not just in Wisconsin but nationally. The fight to remove Walker was necessary, and important. That it did not succeed is heartbreaking. But it cannot be definitional.
Republicans will continue to push their austerity agendas, in Wisconsin and nationally. And progressives have to get better at beating them, in the streets and at the polls. Robert M. La Follette, who suffered more than his share of defeats before he started winning against the robber barons of his day, got it right — for his time, and ours. “We are slow to realize that democracy is a life; and involves continual struggle,” La Follette explained. “It is only as those of every generation who love democracy resist with all their might the encroachments of its enemies that the ideals of representative government can even be nearly approximated.”

This article has several lessons! First of all I gleaned the following info after reading.
1. Walker collected more than $30 million.
2. “That was more than anyone running for any office in Wisconsin history had ever raised, and the money came overwhelmingly — more than 70 percent in the final filing — from out of state.”
3. No statement as to exactly how much money the democrats raised, or the sources.
4. People power is equated with unions and democrats, but IMHO unions and democrats don’t represent all people. What % of the Wisconsin population are government employees represented by these unions?
5. Big money is equated with Walker, and republicans/corporations. Article didn’t mention Walker’s sources, though I read somewhere else that the Koch brothers funded a lot through their Citizens United group (no reference available). Koch brothers have been associated with promoting policies that generally favor corporations and profits over people (my opinion, can’t provide a reference right now).
6. Democrats = progressives = unions = good
7. Republicans = Walker = corporations = conservatives = bad
The headline sets the tone for the article before we even get to the facts, several of which are missing as described above:
‘Big Money’ Thwarts ‘People Power’ in Wisconsin Recall
For me this article is a good example how the mainstream media ‘puts’ opinions into our heads and does the thinking and critiquing for us rather than presenting the facts. I would like to have seen more facts linking the money and sources for both candidates. It seemed to me we were being fed more of the dualistic paradigm that is used to deliberately divide us and keep us fighting against each other, when in reality, neither party nor this system represents ‘we the people’. Also google Hegelian dialectic to see how the government conditions and divides us. This is why I no longer support EITHER political party. Two heads on the same snake (my opinion).
This is well-analyzed, if that is a word. I think it’s fair, too, and you demonstrate rather clearly how we have been manipulated.
I think there is a process we must go through as we awaken. When we realize we have been lied to, then we don’t trust anyone or anything, and so we check everything out ad infinitum. We hit our heads, as has happened here. At the same time we need to heal the pain (often showing up as anger) of what was done to us without even asking. Then we gradually begin to learn to trust a bit, mostly ourselves.
Gradually, we begin to relax a bit, realizing there are many things being said that we aren’t sure of, but as we take our power back, we decide with more clarity what to do with those things. Shall we fight, as in activist work? Should we just let something go that we read – simply make a mental check mark to follow the topic, because it won’t really matter in the larger picture? Are we still plagued with negative feelings that perhaps indicate there is something more going on? Because we are more relaxed and feel a bit safer and able to take care of ourselves – after all, WE are the 99%, and we have the power – we can begin to study our options in a more relaxed way. We don’t have to jump all the time when something looks questionable, because we realize we are not the only one on the planet working on this, but, instead of feeling isolated, we know there are people we can trust who are going to somehow get it right, and perhaps we decide to support them, etc., etc., etc.. . . I hope my words make some sense . . .
Thanks and hugs, ~Jean
You are WRONG in everything that you listed in your Article.
What happened is that the PROGRESSIVE (communist party) which is an EXTREME far left was TAKEN DOWN.
It was NOT a case of BIG MONEY or (uncontrolled Greed) which is the OTHER EXTREME to the far Right.
Both EXTREMES ARE WRONG end of story.
And yes we are now down to 2 EXTREMES which is
1. Communism which has FAILED 100% of the time
2. Uncontrolled Greed which ALSO Fails as well.
“We the People” are in the Middle.
We the People TRIED the
• Soap Box ( Tea Party rallies before being hijacked by the far right and Town Hall Meetings)
• Ballet Box ( Mid-Term Elections where ALL incumbents were thrown out)
• Now it will get down to the Cartridge box and I can tell you that when we get to the Cartridge Box there WILL be a (house cleaning) of BOTH the Far Left and Far Right and we TAKE BACK America and give it to “WE the People”
• We will NEVER LIVE under the Far Left Unions and communism or the Far Right Uncontrolled Greed and the 1%
Bryan, this is completely your opinion. Unless you can base it with facts, I’m not going to publish it. Your words are incendiary and they don’t belong on a blog like mine. Hugs, ~Jean
The Recall Heard Around the World
No one is worried about the profit margin because there is no profit – it’s government! Rather, the only people on the other side of the table are the unions’ co-conspirators: Democratic politicians willing to spend the public treasury on union members, who will repay the politicians by mobilizing voters.
This is why Walker’s victory Tuesday night was an amazing, miraculous, transformative event in the history of the nation.
LOL Ok Gene and THIS article ( Op Ed) is 100% Fact Based Ok you live in your La La Land because THIS IS OP ED that YOU are pushing as FACT.
I based mine on the Constitution and Declaration of Independence and the FOUNDING FATHERS.
The Founding Fathers said do NOT DO THIS for light and transient causes
Use the Soap Box
Use the Ballet Box
Use the Cartridge Box as a last resort but use it.
The left’s “outspent” argument is ridiculous. Unions take money by force from members, hire hundreds of political operatives, and give them salaries to work on campaigns, then call them “volunteers” so their work isn’t reported as a campaign contribution.
Luckily for them, government employees’ non-punishing work schedules leave them plenty of time to be in a constant state of grievance, demanding recalls after any election they lose and mobilizing voters.
This election had nothing to do with people being paid a fair wage for the work they do. The question is: Do you want a society where the people whose salaries you pay make more than those who pay them?
The Democrats will do anything the government unions ask, because 1) It’s not their money they’re spending, it’s the taxpayers’; and 2) Government unions reciprocate by making sure the Democrats keep getting re-elected.
Gov. Andrew Cuomo is about to turn New York into Pottersville from “It’s a Wonderful Life” by legalizing gambling so he can keep paying the unions.
All manufacturing has been driven out of the state by high taxes – and by well-compensated government employees who make it impossible to do business in New York. The state’s principal cash cow, New York City, is now entirely composed of a tiny slice of Wall Streeters and the people who serve them – personal trainers, doormen, maids, doctors, lawyers, restaurateurs and Keith Olbermann’s cat groomer.
Outside of New York City, everyone works for the government. But there’s no actual industry in the state. People are fleeing New York faster than Democratic legislators fled Wisconsin before a vote they were going to lose.
Soon it will be just another mid-range, dying state. If the financial sector ever leaves, New York City will be Detroit, which itself was once the nation’s crown jewel metropolis.
Outside of New York City, everyone works for the government. But there’s no actual industry in the state. People are fleeing New York faster than Democratic legislators fled Wisconsin before a vote they were going to lose.
Soon it will be just another mid-range, dying state. If the financial sector ever leaves, New York City will be Detroit, which itself was once the nation’s crown jewel metropolis.
Bryan, I’ve decided to repost your original comment here (below), so people can see what I was talking about. I still don’t think you get what I was talking about, though, because you are a very angry man, and it seems that at the moment you have decided to be angry with me. When you are angry, it is almost impossible to have clarity. It is possible to take numbers and make them do precisely what we want – and both the GOP and the Democrats are doing it. Anybody can see that. They have cleverly divided us against ourselves.
If you have followed my blog at all you know I do not belong anymore to a political party, because I think they are all corrupt. My belief is that when we get through this, there will be financial equality, which will make political parties unnecessary. We will simply vote for the best person for all of the people in our country.
Also, I don’t believe in the use of guns, but you appear to. It would seem to me, then, that you wouldn’t want to visit a blog that deals in things spiritual. When the changeover happens, guns shouldn’t be necessary, and might be dangerous with hotheads around. I think incendiary talk like yours won’t help that problem – and will more than likely create problems. Hugs, ~Jean
Here is your original post. If I had time, I would ask you to define communist. I would ask you to give me facts which prove your view – we are down to two extremes – and what exactly these two extremes are. I would ask you if you feel Walker represents you – and if so, why you don’t see him as an extremist. I would also suggest that with all your NEVERS – what you will never do, you might make a lot of enemies and create more problems than you think you’ve solved. How about considering sitting and talking with people? Instead, I’m going to leave my blog for the moment; I’ve been up since four a.m, and I still have some other paperwork I must do this evening.
Anyway, Bryan, here is your original post, the post that started the entire fuss about Comments – along with one from someone else:
You are WRONG in everything that you listed in your Article.
What happened is that the PROGRESSIVE (communist party) which is an EXTREME far left was TAKEN DOWN.
It was NOT a case of BIG MONEY or (uncontrolled Greed) which is the OTHER EXTREME to the far Right.
Both EXTREMES ARE WRONG end of story.
And yes we are now down to 2 EXTREMES which is
1. Communism which has FAILED 100% of the time
2. Uncontrolled Greed which ALSO Fails as well.
“We the People” are in the Middle.
We the People TRIED the
• Soap Box ( Tea Party rallies before being hijacked by the far right and Town Hall Meetings)
• Ballet Box ( Mid-Term Elections where ALL incumbents were thrown out)
• Now it will get down to the Cartridge box and I can tell you that when we get to the Cartridge Box there WILL be a (house cleaning) of BOTH the Far Left and Far Right and we TAKE BACK America and give it to “WE the People”
• We will NEVER LIVE under the Far Left Unions and communism or the Far Right Uncontrolled Greed and the 1%
Now, that you have taken the time to clarify what you REALLY meant it turns out [ We are on the same page after all]
1. I do see BOTH parties as extreme
2. I also “no longer” belong to any party
3. Walker does not represent me as far extreme Right
4. I also see that it is “divide and conquer”
5. You missed my POINT of both parties ARE WRONG
6. 2 Wrongs do not make a right
7. The Union “leaders” are NOT angels at all they are just as wrong
I also agree that Walker is the extreme but when you “take” the childish MOB behavior that went on AFTER he did what he did, you “cannot”, point a finger at me at all.
• Why did the Unions members act like animals?
• Why did the Unions NOT sit down and talk?
• Why did the Legislators RUN AWAY and REFUSE to talk?
1. As I said before in my post, 2 WRONGS do not make a right.
2. I am with you and want peace and I am spiritual as well.
The “anger” you sense is that I WAS in a Union and they are THUGS and they use FORCE and violence to DEAL with members and those that OPPOSE them.
On the Flip, side I was a “Peace Officer” Sheriff Deputy that is now retired and I saw the SAME thug behavior by the EXTREME Right to build the Police State Grid and they used physical violence to those that opposed them as well.
I as a spiritual person has gone with what is pure and correct NOT be a thug FOR ANY REASON at all. Thus the “Peace Officer” [ no longer around]
I have DEALT with in real life the EXTREME Left and the EXTREME Right and it is very frightening.
You have NOT BEEN beaten like I was and I am talking about TRYING to kill you and it was ONLY because of Super Natural Protection from God THAT I AM ALIVE from BOTH times getting beaten by the far left and far right.
They are actually IMHO evil as in “controlled” by dark forces because they do not appear to operate like a normal human would at all. It is like they are “possessed” by some Dark Force or energy and you have the Far left as being angels and I can tell you that I have BEEN in a Union there are “Enforcers” just like there are “Enforcers” in the far right.
In fact, I submit to you that we are in a “Formal Police State” for the last 12 months and it was built by the Far Right starting with 9-11 and saying we MUST have unending Wars and we MUST spend $1 Trillion and ten years to CREATE a Police State when MORE have died from BEE STINGS then Terrorism.
I was in the SYSTEM when it was being built. Do not make the Unions out to be angelic when the “leadership” OF THE UNIONS are goons and could CARE LESS about the membership.
I do agree that the membership is made of decent people BUT management of the Union is very DARK energy indeed.
What is the “Cloward-Piven Plan”?
The reason they are is called the “Cloward-Piven Plan” it was created by the Communist party that NEVER went away but changed its name to the Progressive Party.
They were to take over control of
• Universities
• Schools
• Labor Unions (bonus cash cow for funding)
• Teacher Unions (another funding cow)
• Create Welfare Programs to bankrupt us
• Food Stamps
• Create Special People
• Create Special Groups
• Community Organizers
• Control Churches by making them Corporations as 501C3 and “stop” them from helping the poor by Taxing churches as punishment so only the Government has the Monopoly of control and power over the poor
• Get into every level of Government
• Disarm us
• Stop Free Speech with PC or Political Correctness
• Cause Racial Tension
• Destroy Marriage
• Destroy Family
• Take God out of Government
• Take God out of Schools
• Create Abortion Mills with Tax Money
• Get Federalized School System so that “brainwashing” False History and No History is uniform throughout the Country
• Force unfunded Federal Mandates to Bankrupt the Country
• Federalize as much as possible so that moving to another State has no effect because it is all over the Country
• Bring in a Fascist Economy with a Social Justice System a High Bred of Communism
The plan was brilliant and sure did work because look where we are in just one Generation.
Bryan, I’m tired now, but I don’t want to let this opportunity pass. What has happened here can be a tremendous learning opportunity for us all if we choose to look at it that way. You were deeply and profoundly injured by these union folks, and I don’t doubt it for a minute. You didn’t tell us that, however, and I’m not sure why. What I know in a general way is that people are often fearful to be transparent for any number of reasons. I also know we are moving into a world where masks won’t work anymore. We don’t/won’t need to hide our pain anymore: we can be ‘real’, but we’re not there yet.
What I can say now without a doubt is that because of your present transparency I hear you and I understand why you said what you said. When you share your personal, gut wrenching experience with us, we relate to what you say in a very different way. You have info and wisdom to share which is the very best because it comes from having lived it from your own experience. Many of us have read about your sort of experience, but we have not heard anyone speak about it from personal experience. Your sharing this with us is probably far more important than all the head/intellectual information you shared in your first comment. For me, it has far greater value. It’s very, very ‘real’ to me, Bryan, far more so than anything else you said. It speaks far more than statistics and numbers.
Something else which you may not understand or realize is that when you share personally, we can validate you, we can support you, we can sympathize with you – and all of these things are appropriate and wholesome, and very important to your own healing from the nightmares you have experienced – and also to ours. That is what friends are for, you know.
Also, f you – and others – could use what is known as “I” statements. For instance, ‘I feel this’. . .’this is my opinion because of what I experienced’. . . ‘I learned this as a result of . . . I haven’t mentioned using “I” statements before, rather than speaking in broad general terms, but until I learned to use them I often tripped myself up. These ideas I’m sharing are not only for you, but for everyone that comes here. What you are saying, then, is that I experienced this, and so I feel this way. It is entirely a subjective statement: it is your experience and what you felt as a result – and so it is viable and reasonable. No one can argue with it.
The only other thing we must do is to show respect for others who may not feel as we do. We may not want to bother with these silly words like ‘you may not agree with me, but permit me to share’ or ‘if you haven’t already read it, you might find it of interest’, but the fact is that they are also self-serving in a very positive way. They protect us, because it is very hard to get angry and come back sharply with someone who offers an opinion, but isn’t demanding that you agree with them. People just don’t like it and very often will go so far as to refuse to read/listen. This, of course, might be exactly the opposite of our goal. Many times, when we introduce a new idea, people simply can’t take it in, but on some level, they hear it. Then they may hear it again somewhere else, and gradually they develop a place inside where they can hold the information. If we don’t handle our sharing that way, this never gets the opportunity to happen.
There is one more thing I’d like to mention here: If we spoken in ‘I’ statements, if we’ve offered our opinion in a respectful – and someone still lashes out at us – it’s about them! It is not about you! CAN YOU HEAR ME? This is one of the most ‘freeing’ bits of wisdom I can offer you! If we presented ourself and our ideas properly, and someone lashes out – IT IS ALL ABOUT THEM! It is very likely you have triggered them into one of their own issues, but whatever has happened it is still their problem!
These are all important skills and understandings that we were never taught. Our parents, like it or not, usually didn’t have a clue. It does no good to blame them, or anyone else, because they usually did the best they could with what they had. In my case, they didn’t have much. If we blame them, we become a victim, and we will never, ever get out of a situation if we let ourselves assume that role. I share these things, because I realize that people who come here to my blog are going to find themselves in leadership roles, and these are skills you all are going to need! Now, it’s up to you – you can do whatever you want with what I have offered. I hope you will find it helpful.
Now, Bryan and everyone else who has been following this thread, I’ve said my piece, and if you like, I hope you’ll share your own ideas and thoughts with me and one another. I’ll look at this tomorrow morning, and I send you all hugs and love, ~Jean
General post,
Yes, big money and really stupid people. It takes two to tango! John Nichols is correct in his observations:
“Republicans will continue to push their austerity agendas, in Wisconsin and nationally.”
We’ve all witnessed what “austerity” has done for Europe. So, when the GOP shoves it down everyone’s throats in this country to protect their pocket-lining, bankster buddies, it’ll happen here too! And, when it does, this community will be ready for it. But, really, I don’t want to here a lot of complaining coming from the uneducated, ill-informed, and unconscious who still believe that there are “Liberals” fighting “Conservatives” and “Commies” fighting “MERIcans.” That hackneyed political expression died out with Barry Goldwater back in the ’60s. They didn’t listen to any of his warnings then and these same pseudo-intellectual pundits aren’t listening to Dr. Paul now.
Well, I say let them stick their hands in the fire. After they’ve contracted a nice second-degree burn and they have to lance blisters and live in bandages for several weeks, they’ll realize that the political arguments the GOP, the Democrats, the “TEA” Party, and other phony political extremist morons couch as they all race to see who’ll institute neo-NAZI fascism first, are just a lot of BULL.