Someone in Canada is Awake—Check Out this Flaming Response to a Senator’s Remarks

Source: 2012thebigpicture
Thanks to A.

UPDATE: May 29 – It seems there is no Senator Jeff Smith in Québec. BUT, as I said on Facebook…

“… the point is, someone spoke up, told the truth, said what was on their mind, and… that’s what we have to do, because if we don’t say we DON’T agree with what’s going on, we’re going along. No one was hurt in this, so it’s an acceptable way to protest, in my book.”

Someone suggested the names were changed to protect the innocent; thereby allowing the senator to save face.

Whether there is a senator by that name or not is irrelevant. This rant got a lot of attention and probably woke a few people up, and that’s what needs to happen. After they WAKE up, they can SPEAK up, and then we can create change.

Oh-ho! I’m happy pass it on… this post from One People Canada Facebook page.

Go Patty!!!

(contrary to what many Americans believe, Canada does not have a “free” health care system. Those who work pay into it all their lives, as well as Employment Insurance and retirement /pension funds-CPP.

Actually, Canadians pay far more taxes than Americans. When we left Canada, my other half was paying 43% of his income in taxes.)

May 28
One People Canada Facebook Page

I don’t think pissed really covers it!!!!Jeff Smith, the Senator from Québec calls senior citizens the Greediest Generation as he compared “Social Security ” to a Milk Cow with over a million teats.Here’s a response in a letter from PATTY JOHNSTONE in Ontario … I think she is a little ticked off! She also tells it like it is! Oh sooo true!“Hey Jeff, let’s get a few things straight!!!!!1. As a career politician, you have been on the public dole (tit) for FIFTY YEARS.2. I have been paying CPP & OHIP for 48 YEARS (since I was 15 years old. I am now 63).3. My Canada Pension payments, and those of millions of other Canadians, were safely tucked away in an interest-bearing account for decades until you political pukes decided to raid the account and give OUR money to a bunch of zero losers in return for votes, thus bankrupting the system and turning Social Security into a Ponzi scheme that would make Bernie Madoff proud.

4. Recently, just like Lucy & Charlie Brown, you and “your ilk” pulled the proverbial football away from millions of Canadian seniors nearing retirement and moved the goalposts for full retirement from age 65 to age, 67. NOW, you and your “shill commission” are proposing to move the goalposts YET AGAIN.

5. I, and millions of other Canadians, have been paying into OHIP & CPP from Day One, and now “you morons” propose to change the rules of the game. Why? Because “you idiots” mismanaged other parts of the economy to such an extent that you need to steal our money from OHIP & CCP to pay the bills.

6. I, and millions of other Canadians, have been paying income taxes our entire lives, and now you propose to increase our taxes yet again. Why? Because you “incompetent bastards” spent our money so profligately that you just kept on spending even after you ran out of money. Now, you come to the Canadian taxpayers and say you need more to pay off YOUR debt.

To add insult to injury, you label us “greedy” for calling “bullshit” to your incompetence. Well, Captain Bullshit, I have a few questions for YOU:

1. How much money have you earned from the Canadian taxpayers during your pathetic 50-year political career?

2. At what age did you retire from your pathetic political career, and how much are you receiving in annual retirement benefits from the Canadian taxpayers?

3. How much do you pay for YOUR government-provided health insurance?

4. What cuts in YOUR retirement and healthcare benefits are you proposing in your disgusting deficit reduction proposal, or as usual, have you exempted yourself and your political cronies?

It is you, Captain Bullshit, and your political co-conspirators called Parliament who are the “greedy” ones. It is you and your fellow nutcase thieves who have bankrupted the Canadian Pension, OHIP and stolen the Canadian dream from millions of loyal, patriotic taxpayers.

And for what? Votes and your job and retirement security at our expense, you lunk-headed, leech.

That’s right, sir. You and yours have bankrupted our benefits for the sole purpose of advancing your pathetic, political careers. You know it, we know it, and you know that we know it.

And you can take that to the bank, you miserable son of a bitch. NO, I didn’t stutter.

P.S. And stop calling CPP & OHIP “entitlements”. WHAT AN INSULT!!!!

I have been paying in to the CPP system for 45 years “It’s my money”-give it back to me the way the system was designed and stop patting yourself on the back like you are being generous by doling out these monthly checks.”

EVERYONE!!!

If you like the way things are in Canada delete this.

If you agree with what an Ontario citizen, says, please PASS IT ON!!!!

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19 Responses to Someone in Canada is Awake—Check Out this Flaming Response to a Senator’s Remarks

  1. Paul says:

    Just another political (ASSHOLE) who has never worked in his life and lives
    on the back’s of tax payers.

  2. Ed says:

    I also take issue with the attempt to blacken the word “entitlement.” that disgraced civil service appointee who said, “I am entitled to my entitlements” was perfectly correct and justified. We are ENTITLED to benefits we have paid for or earned, or been granted by society. Unpopularity does not take away our entitlements.

    People seem to widely confuse this with the idea of “culture of entitlement” or the antics of pompous pseudoaristocrats (Conrad Black comes to mind), who are to be sneered at for presuming entitlements they have NOT paid for, earned or merited.

    • Derek Madge says:

      What Ed said. Entitlement means you ARE entitled to it- essentially you have a right to it. The perjorative use of the word in this silly and ill informed internet rant spotlights the foaming at the mouth attitude that holds sway over reality. Keep in mind, this “Senator” does not exist. The obnoxious ranting and name calling directed at the fictional character in apparent response to being called “greedy”, is the pot calling the kettle black, ten-fold. If you check with Snopes.com, which does research you will find that this “Canadian” rant has had Canadian and Ontarian terms substituted for American terms; the original American ranter is unknown. That is, anonymous, no-one who wills tand up and state his or her name. Irrelevant.

      So, essentially this rant of an unknown, unaccountable person or persons, against a non-existent person (from a different country that the originator(s)) is nonsense and simply stirs up people who prefer to be angy than to be factual.

      Incidentally if you check Snopes, you’ll find that the original target was a Senator Alan Simpson, who at one point did use the term “greediest generation” but tempered that with saying “I really believe that there are more patriots in America than selfish, selfish people,”
      Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/simpson.asp#yJoOcoDij5ychCEc.99

      If your elected politician misbehaves- and we know that some do, then you, the votor and citizen, is responsible for putting that person in a position of power. If you screw up by paying attention to rants rather than research, you deserve the political representation you get.

  3. Paul Christilaw says:

    I agree and think the politicians should go to jail for embezzlement. This is my money, that I have paid, and they owe it to me, with interest. If an insurance company had sold bogus policies and stolen the policy money, they would be in jail.

  4. Bud Hamilton says:

    I don’t. Know where this so called Senator got his information from ,but he must be dreaming or hallucinating inorder to make those statements . I get the basic $540.00 Old Age Pension per mo . Utilities & groceries cost more than that . Rate of inflation has increased to more than the meager amount that the federal government doles out to pensioners . I would like the senator to try & live on just the $540.00 per mo . without using any more . He is to pay his rent ,utilities ,groceries& medication out of just that amount . When you are a senior you are not to be employed if on Old Age Security Benefits . After 3 mos. he would be crying for assistance . If on old age remember as well you cannot. Go on Social Security either . This so called Senator has to pull his head out of the sand & realize. That we Seniors only ask to be treated & respected the same as a worker . He has to remember that without us he wouldn’t be where he is . If Canadians could vote for him & he wasn’t appointed ,he probably wouldn’t be a senator or even a member of parliament .As a senator he is highly paid & doesn’t work every day .

  5. Merisa says:

    As a Canadian, I’m glad to see that someone already cleared up who the quote actually belongs to so that is one inaccuracy that’s been addressed. Here are the others:

    The OHIP and CPP have nothing to do with one another. OHIP is the Ontario Health Insurance Plan and has nothing to do with a person’s retirement. CPP is the Canada Pension Plan. The writer is talking about a provincial and federal programs that are handled differently and separately from one another.

    As far as I know, the funds in CPP have not been touched by anyone. In fact, as of March 31, 2013, the CPP fund sat at $183.3B. It has been on a steady rise since changes were made in 1997 that saw an increase to the contribution rate and the creation of the CPP Investment Board. The fund took a slight dip in 2009 due to the recession and losses on investments. Either way, it hasn’t been pilfered to pay for anything except payments to people eligible for CPP.

    And, that is all irrelevant because the eligibility requirements on CPP did not change. What changed was the eligibility of OAS and GIS (Old Age Security and Guaranteed Income Supplement) from 65 to 67. Unlike CPP, OAS has no reserve fund. It is funded through general tax revenues. This expenditure changes annually and is expected to increase from ~$38B (in 2011) to $108B by 2030. Today, 13 cents of every federal tax dollar is spent on OAS. If nothing changes, that spending will increase to 21 cents. Today the worker to senior ratio is 4:1; by 2030, it will be 2:1. Changes need to be made now so that future generations are not carrying a heavy tax burden to fund senior retirement.

    Finally, this does not affect anyone born on or before March 31, 1958. They will still be receiving OAS at 65. Those who are born between April 1, 1958 and January 31, 1962 will go through a phase in process from age 65-67. All others born after Feb 1, 1962, will receive their OAS and GIS at age 67. So if this “writer” is 63, these changes do not affect her.

    It’s unfortunate that people continue to repost/forward things without fact checking them first. Most people are not informed enough about their government and its operations and perpetual sharing of drivel like this leads just leads to more ignorance of the masses.

    • Christopher says:

      Merisa, If you want future generations not to carry a heavy tax burden, perhaps the cuts should start at the top. Like…..eliminate the useless senate starting with this rude, ignorant senator Smith. How dare he make comments like he did. It’s not until recent actions that senators are finally being recognized for what they truly are. Polititcal thieves. But if you and I had committed the offences that they have, we wouldn’t just have to pay back what we stole, we’d be put in jail. Look at where the savings should start before telling hard paying tax payers to bear the burden for our future generations. I don’t know about you but I had to work 30 years to get a meager pension…not 8 years to collect $155,000.00/year like federal polititans get. Ms Johnstone may have made a few errors in her statement but she hit the nail on the head….Senator Smith was totally out of line in his comments and should be ashamed of himself. Truly unprofessional.

    • jamie says:

      Yes, the eligibility requirements for CPP did change, in the respect that anyone opting to receive it early will be losing a larger percentage of the payments than they would have previously. This backs up the break even point even further, so it is a factor to be considered.

  6. Unfortunately I’m afraid the middle class working family will disappear and we will only have a the poor and the wealthy class, and more poor than wealthy since the government only taxes the middle class and never really taxes the wealthy as much as they should. Canadians are too afraid of an NDP government, thinking we will be living under socialism, such crap!!

  7. Jaywant says:

    They say the last refuse of a crook is politics. How true it is today. This is gradually eroding Democrcey.

  8. Rick says:

    The senator was Alan Simpson from Wyoming, not Ontario. And it was 310 million. And it was back in August of 2010. I guess it just shows that politics is the same everywhere, and if not unchanging it only gets worse.

    I do not disagree with her comments, just trying to set some of the facts straight.

  9. Eric says:

    I’d like to add a followup to this tale, which I found to be rather inaccurate after researching with the help of my Canadian friend. There is in fact, or rather was, a Senator Lawrence Jeffrey Smith in Quebec, who is no longer in office. Why she couldn’t find his name is beyond me as we found it in under three minutes on a search of Canadian senators. Canadians also do NOT refer to their social insurance/pension plan as social security either. Whoever wrote this sounds to be more an American trying to pass themselves off as being Canadian. It is true that Canadians pay higher taxes overall than Americans do, but it is not from one tax, but several. What I said in my earlier comment however, does hold true. Canada faces many of the same problems we Americans face, and I will also state a great many are no longer sitting idly by and not saying anything anymore. If this site is going to be about the Real Truth, sources should be verified first, or this becomes no better than mainstream corporate owned media.

    • Jean says:

      Eric, thanks for checking this out and adding this info. I debated about posting this to begin with, and appreciate your input. Hugs, ~Jean

      • Eric says:

        Not a problem Jean and glad we could be of some help. I am finding my gut instincts always encourage me to ask WHY no matter the information, so I can make a more informed decision on issues brought to our attention.

        Cheers

    • Bud Hamilton says:

      No matter what you say OAS is the abbreviated form for Old Age Security . I am a Canadian not some imbecile says he is an American it Canadian who states he knows what OAS or inflation means . I say to you pull your head out of the sand & get your facts & figures straight before making your comment .

  10. Eric says:

    She’s absolutely right. I have a close dear friend in Canada and we have discussed their political situation and ours. Not only do they pay more in taxes than we do, but they have allowed so much outsourcing to occur, their jobless rate is worse than ours. Add to this the Canadian government pays immigrants to come to their country, provides them health services free, and a monthly stipend that is greater than Canadians get on their retirement pension. Many are also provided free housing and assistance to obtain work, if they choose to, again, at taxpayer expense.With their national debt rising, the government is insisting more immigrants are needed in Canada. The USA has similar programs going, although these are NEVER heard about in mainstream media. Here in Wisconsin, Hmong are not only given a good sized welfare check, but I know of one who was also collecting social security and WIC payments for their fifth child. They also receive financing through the state to purchase cars and housing. I can state factually that all of them I see in my area drive newer vehicles, some even driving new Mercedes Benz and other luxury vehicles.

    I could have started collecting disability when I turned 18, however, I chose not to, wanting to be a contributing member of this nation. It was only after becoming too disabled to work after 27 years, I HAD to go on it. Meanwhile, our senators and theirs receive entitlements the rest of the population will never see. Americans and Canadians both are being screwed to the walls. Just like their social security, ours was spent, illegally, in the stock markets and lost. Meanwhile, disability and social security payments were frozen for a couple of years, with the claim there would be no rise in the cost of living. Really? My rent went up twice, leaving me struggling worse than usual to keep myself together body and soul. I know of many others in the same situation, yet senators aren’t inconvenienced with these facts. Every last one of them should be staked out on Capitol Hill and publicly flogged for being oath breakers, liars, swindlers and thieves. Trust me, in this case their treachery is bipartisan. I wish Canadians all the luck in the world getting rid of the swine that makes up their government.About the only decent one they’ve got at present is Andrea Horvath, who speaks out about government waste and corruption frequently.

    • W. Atkinson says:

      And Andrea chose not to kick out the incompetent Liberals in Ontario, but supported their budget which puts us farther in debt with fewer jobs and hydro rates going up 40%. What industry in their right mind would come to Ontario with our exorbitant energy costs and taxes.

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